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It has to be him. As far as I've heard. I agree R307, I think this is their man. I know I could be proven wrong but thats my issue with the catfish theory. R428 That does NOT look like a young guy. The official search had barely resumed when one of the search teams made a gruesome discovery. Police believe that the person in question is between 56 and 510 tall and weighs between 180 to 200 pounds. Isn't part of the id problem a lot of guys look like h? For whatever reason I feel the killer is associated but not the family. I think it's the newest suspect entry on the Wikipedia page. The case of Abby and Libbys horrific double-murder remains cold, with tips continuing to roll in, but at least a year since the last Delphi murders update. However, I do not think she is trustworthy. Chadwell was in prison for 13 years and he worked on bridges. Way back at the start (when I thought this would be satisfying to follow cuz it would be solved fast) there was online talk of shunned Amish communities around Delphi that seemed to have some promise . did that go anywhere? Here's the interview with Abby's mom that mentions her brothers texts. But then Leigh Kerr appeared last week. I wondered if they had someone in mind. The man in the video doesn't need to be from the area. The sheriff also had notable body language that could be interpreted as guilt or fear. He went out the door and that was it. Evidently the Leigh Kerr AMA convinced a family member to demand more information, according to a poster on this thread. Local reports on the tv today reminded us that tomorrow is the 4th anniversary of the murder. I believe the current theory is that it's actually Kline's father that is the prime suspect for the murders. It just seems odd for a serial killer to strike in the remote area hoping a couple of teenage girls stroll by. The basics: Two teen girls walking on a deserted bridge in Feb 2017 go missing and are found brutally murdered the next day, about 3/4 of a mile from the bridge. When you start patching together all of the little snippets, it seems like something very freaky was done with bodies. And it was in no way someone going rogue. This was a deliberate move by those handling the case to draw someone out. Police have only said that the video it came from captured the man telling the girls to go down the hill during possible criminal activity. They have never elaborated further on that description. There's also differing tales on the recording. Wasn't there a rather pervasive rumor a while back about a leaked search warrant for a very specific blade knife? Tattoo could represent the killer's type of victim. The tattoo is the image of the type of victims he kills. I think it's quite plausible that the guy was walking carefully because of a rotting bridge. I guess this was someone just trying to get off on feeling powerful answering questions. I will be very surprised if he isn't the Delphi killer Very. What good is it if you haven't done your investigation so that you can get a conviction. Despite the woke, theyve always been notoriously anti-gay, yes? I'm not sure how I feel. My impression just from the photo and his recording is that hes middle aged, has a fairly decent job, knew what he was doing and was comfortable, has pretty good taste in clothes, not a slob, people wouldnt suspect him, has a boat. I don't think he was less than 30. It was probably the county sheriff's nephew. Those reddit links are all over the place. R251 I think it sounds like they have a suspect whose wife is providing his alibi. The crimes are very similiar. A good case can take time to develop. The "leaker" is a phony and the sub-reddit moderator is a fool. Don't have a link, sorry, but a story at the Daily Mail today says he's been beaten up by the other inmates at the prison he's in. Whats with all the secrecy from the cops? At least information followed into or brought to the attention by the investigators. Please listen to it very, very carefully.". Where did this new lead go?? He didn't, the factory reset he did on his Samsung Galaxy was 9 days later, as the article says. I did read that the bodies were found on the opposite bank to where he forced them down the hill. R245 You are saying BG has nothing to do with the crime? If sexual assault wasn't the motive, the motive must have been something else we're not aware of - such as a payback for a parent's debt. West End star Stephanie Lawrence died of natural causes after suffering fromliver disease, it has No one has ever talked. I dunno. I mentioned it on that thread. the Arts Educational School in Hertfordshire, her West End debut came at the age of 16 in the play Forget Me Not Lane. It was only about a minute long and he just said he didn't do it. What a fucking monster. I guess what bothers me is how calm he sounds on the recording. I think that there were 2 guys and that Chadwell MIGHT be the one who says, "Down the hill, guys but he probably isn't Bridge Guy." Why? If she were being strangled, she would have tried to pull the fishing line or rope away from her neck. He seemed like such a gentle soul most of the time, but could snap angrily really suddenly, and then immediately go back to his gentle self again. Indiana State Police Sgt. Press J to jump to the feed. I wish I could remember who said it and where I heard it, but there was an interview with someone who had worked on the case and he mentioned how badly affected people he worked with had been by what they saw at the crime scene. The police later identified his car in other snatch-and-grab kills of opportunity. Because of social media, and the onslaught of armchair detectives, pictures and information of people who may look like the man in the photo circulated, causing death threats and harassment. Tell you what. There is a reward of more than $200,000 for information that can lead to an arrest in the case. Good observation! I hope shes ok and the police is looking into it. I have to read a little and then back off for awhile. I think you could be right about that being all they have UNLESS everything else is too disturbing (him talking but you can also hear the girls pleading or whatever). And hes also not lithe and skinny like a teen or young adult. I don't buy that one. This guy walks to fast. I'm not going to assume it's him but he's a very good suspect or person of interest. It bothered me that another child would have to be hurt, possibly killed to solve this crime. So were trying to keep the details close to our vests.. R299, the tattoo dates to before the murders, there's a photo of him playing with a puppy in 2016 where he has the tat. I have not been able to post a link for 2 days or I would be happy to. i would think there would be some DNA or something from crime scene. Apparently an agent was home visiting family there when it happened and brought the FBI in. Equally bizarre was Robert Ives using the term non-secular signatures but now I cant find where and when he said it or even if he did. Is this case the result of two stupid young girls who didn't get the FUCK out of dodge when they had the chance OR a bumbling homicide department? Here you can see and hear the video of the suspect. A family member dropped the girls off that afternoon with a plan to pick them up a few hours later. Previously, police could only collect samples from those suspects who were convicted of a felony in the state. The local police say the case is still active. Whatever the case, his interview raised so many questions in my mind. It will enhance any encyclopedic page you visit with the magic of the WIKI 2 technology. It's a dangerous bridge with rotting slats of wood that you have to look at and be careful stepping on. I hadnt read about that case. The car was abandoned near the crime scene. The timing of the girls recording, their death and the finding of their bodies also meant the killer acted quickly which likely means he had a confidence in surroundings. According to Leigh Kerr there was a religious aspect to the crime scene and the bodies were staged. She trained as a concert pianist before becoming an actress, training at RADA and graduating in 1949. Thanks to the poster for the info on the upcoming HLN update. We know how the girls died. There were no trail cams, at the time of the murders. Was Valentines Day a trigger for the Delphi murders? Just happens he has a dog that he's trained to chase cats or has a dog period? No? I can see why the people who saw home that day put his age all over the place. Kids are also social media minded and the bridge and the view made for good photos. Essentially some interrogation transcripts that were supposed to be sealed were posted publicly and then quickly withdrawn not before someone got them. Although investigators have never given the exact context to the images or audio taken from the video, they have said they were taken during suspected criminal activity.. It is not him. Nothing out there is accurate, which only leads to more false tips.. The cops clearly fucked up the investigation in someway (obtaining evidence through legally inadmissible means). One thing that has always stayed with me (either by reading Libby's grandmother's account of it or hearing Libby say it on a social media video) is that Libby was upset that her phone had to be reset to the factory settings and she lost photos stored in her phone. I'm sure I read that somewhere. Those are the vibes some of his pictures gave me. Going back years and years? I'm not yet convinced, he does fit the sketch, he is a real creep but that still doesn't prove he did it. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. That's got to be the guy. Women hating bullies identify with him. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. You can also use the following email to report directly: Delphi Lawrence - Wiki, Age, Biography, Trivia | FilmiFeed. I shudder to think about how he mutilated them and posed their bodies. Desperate. Absolutely not. Why would the Delphi sheriff say that people will be shocked when they find out the identity of the killer. Marissa Bluestine, the Innocence Projects legal director, said she had not heard of Garnetts case until contacted about it by a reporter. There are rumors that they did collect touch DNA at the site but no one knows for sure. It just doesnt sound right. Smith Moving Co., Durnell told the jury on the fist day of testimony, under the questioning of Assistant District Attorney Robert Gawthrop III. Who would remember that years later to the day? I didnt see him again that night. The only way we will resolve to gain justice for Abby and Libby, for their respective families and our caring community, is to remain dedicated to the preservation of said integrity. R194 Ill admit, Ive never been so intrigued by true crime, but this one really got under my skin. The meth revenge could also explain why the girls werent sexually assaulted. A. I would never have believed then that it would still be going on 4 years later. Libby's photo looks like a school picture. " as well as recorded him giving the chilling command, Guys.down the hill.. Crossing the bridge was not permitted and signs were posted. The charges stem from a search of his Peru, Indiana home on February 25, 2017 - just 11 days after the bodies of Liberty and Abby were found. Everything is a guess. But not to the area. In terms of the disturbing footage I've heard, it's always hearsay in this case, that the disturbing footage consists of what the killer does to the bodies. causes.". Hours later, when they failed to meet their ride home at that same location it would kick off a series of events that would forever change the tiny town of Delphi, Indiana. DELPHI | Libby German's sister hopes Twitter can help find her killer, "(We) thought we were going to get the clues that we needed and be done with this in four or five days," ISP Detective Jerry Holeman told RTV6 in 2019. The fat pedo does look like the old Bridge Man police sketch but then almost every guy in the state of Indiana looks like the Old Bridge Guy sketch. The only thing I can think of is that he was comparing body to body three unusual things done to/with each body. have we confirmed this guy was into hunting and/or fishing? It is not difficult to threaten and intimate children that age into obeying orders. I said this on another thread: was it pure incompetence by detectives or were they going after something bigger. I think he is the one who told the Delphi investigators to take a second look at KAK in connection to the Delphi Murders. R345, we already established that the tattoo was on his arm before the Delphi murders. I thought they got the guy - he is in jail currently but was free when those poor kids were done in. It has been well established that BG is the killer. I've thought about it repeatedly since it happened. "Speaking on behalf of state police, we dont ever release information about ongoing investigations, Holeman said. The way investigators are still asking people if they know who set up the catfishing account even though the fat pedo already admitted he did it. In 1962, she starred in episode 11 of TheSaint ("The Man Who Was Lucky") as Cora. I think the face on that tattoo is exactly what her poor face looked like when he left her there for LE. R107 That is revolting. Around that time I thought for sure it had to be because BG had used the same thing. When Abby and Libby did not come back for pickup at 5:30 p.m., their parents reported them missing. I always thought this was lucky-psycho related. At the time, it was uncertain exactly what the totality of the circumstances were. Some people are suspecting his creepy dad and the pressure on him is to turn his dad in. That inexorable redneck fuck lumbering towards the camera in his stupid fucking dad jeans..and the casual way he orders them down the hillI just feel for those girls. Leigh Kerrs new postings are contradictory to me - religious yet sexual tableau.. I think its more likely someone who knows the area (truck driver? The girls had noticed the pervy guy earlier when they later noticed him following them across the abandoned train trestle. It is, she said, a truly interesting case.. He convinced her that he loved her and when she agreed to marry him he coldly dumped her and never spoke to her again. The sheriff is also shaped like the man in the photos and videos. Evidently the sheriff is going to answer submitted questions. . Also, it seems (if Leigh Kerr can be believed) that Abby was killed first and quickly, possibly bludgeoned. Were you supervised 24/7 when you were 15? I finally turned on my CC and muted the tv. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. I think he must have had a gun, I have a hard time seeing how he could have killed them otherwise. If they had anything, this guy would be caught. So it's possible that Libby had sent photos of herself to this guy. Because I'm obsessed with this case, on the forums I read several people have had interactions with this profile and are turning info into the police. Apparently you can get away with killing two people in the middle of a sunny day outside with others AND with video/pictures and audio of your voice. He says the items were unusual. He said he offered to take her home and try to help, but that his stepfather overruled him. Now it looks like they were and by this fat pedo. It wasnt until he had the girls down the hill that he revealed his motives. With video, audio etc, I was sure of this and thought the girl who kept her phone going was so smart. They've said for years everyone there knows who did it, but it's never come out. The woman hasnt posted back in 5 days I wonder if shes ok and if she was telling the truth! What happened on that unusually warm February day remains a mystery to this day to everyone but Liberty German, Abigail Williams and the man who murdered them. R414, you dont think that the police are keeping the family informed? "I don't want this person to do this again, and if he has, I hope that I'm able to help that family and be a part of their lives eventually," Kelsi said. I dont think its this guy. He does resemble Bridge Guy. Nations is currently in jail awaiting trial for unrelated charges for failing to register as a violent sex offender and for failing to appear in court. Indiana State Police previously said that autopsies were carried out on the two girls but officials declined to disclose a cause or time of death for either girl, and refused to confirm whether DNA evidence was recovered from the scene. Our first cousin.. No stone should be left underturned! R233 I dont think hes fat, either. R209 Leigh Kerr was supposed to come back and answer the highest voted questions that he hadnt gotten to last night. You can't see any such thing in a pic so low-res and Occam's Razor says it's just oversized/bulky clothing. We have no idea if LE has DNA, but the assumption is they don't or we would have heard of it being used to find the killer by now. For unknown reasons, German took out her phone and recorded a brief video of the man but Germans decision proved prescient. The investigators probing Abby Williams and Libby Germans murders have not offered comment one way or the other on the accuracy of the representation, however. Discover Delphi Lawrence's Biography, Age, Height, Physical Stats, Dating/Affairs, Family and career updates. Abby Williams and Libby German, the victims of the Delphi murders. Acc to the family that all happened last minute. What purpose would that serve if not to intentionally apply psychological pressure, via the destruction of his fantasy, which might lead to a slip-up? February 13, 2017. It was rarer still for someone of Garnetts young age to be charged with first-degree murder and face death row. Like, we're doing this cool thing tomorrow afternoon. Ive also read her body was still warm when they found her the next day.Its so awful to think maybe she could have been saved had she been found the day/night before. In the 1970s-1980s, there was a serial killer in Connecticut, never caught. This is one of the most frustrating unsolved crimes to me. But it's his "type," the type he kills. They are also asking years later about whether anyone saw a car in a nearby parking lot. R207 Thats my thought. The sound editing was much better. On one of the reservoir tanks was a big (I mean huge) sign that said something like "Congratulations New York Police for Catching Son of Sam!" I am going to Google percentages Again, good observation. Some of the theories here are REALLY nutty and reaching. On Tuesday afternoon, Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, was identified as the man behind the account. Take with a grain of salt but he said that the younger girl, Abby, was killed quickly but the older girl, Libby, had fought and had much more trauma. "We also believe this person is from Delphi currently or has previously lived here, visits Delphi on a regular basis or works here," Carter said. Imo, and made one cooperate by threatening to kill her friend if she did not obey him. I think the creepiest part is the police apparently know who did it but because of the video quality they can't charge to culprit so are just waiting for him to make a mistake. Sadistic beyond words. But now I just dont know what to think. The guys and down the hill are in order, according to one of the parents/grandparents who listened to the recording and were interviewed on a podcast. That could be a big lead. I think this is our guy. I believe it was from a first responder. I always roll my eyes at the 'owed money to drug dealers' theory. But he didnt. click ACCEPT. Kim Riley with the Indiana State Police. R29 Sorry, I wasn't getting at that part. I also tend to believe stuff released from family members, although I understand people may feel differently. Any neckbeard will do. She passed away on April 11, 2002 in Northport, which is located on Long Island in the state of New York, USA. He is a serial killer. Police released the images they say were taken straight from Libbys cell phone, on Feb. 15, 2017 the day after the girls bodies were found. I don't think the cops have a clue who this guy is. Delphi Lawrence fathers name is N/A and Delphi Lawrence mothers name is N/A. A. HLN is doing a 2 part series on the Delphi girls on Feb 14 and 15. His eyes are chilling. If you can't find the email you can resend it here. They threaten you, they don't go jump start to killing two people. Libby added, "But not THOSE photos! Either way, this fucker is going down for assault, kidnapping, attempted murder and molestation of a child. Crews widened the scope of their search as soon as the sun came up, wandering further from the abandoned railroad tracks and into wooded areas below the bridge and along Deer Creek. R188 Maybe but I suspect this Leigh Kerr is the real deal. Q. Chadwell's brother says he's a monster and his step-father says he is capable of murder. McCauley, in her stories, noted the presence of the victims parents in the courtroom. Pedophiles identify with him. R435, it could also speak to the outfits for that area. The second Delphi murders photo, though blurry, does seem to show someone wearing a dark jacket similar to the one in the suspects photo, though police are hesitant to make any statements about this, and subsequently, have not commented on this matter. If someone murdered my kid, I would be desperate too. It may help to prevent action against false leads/confessions and may help to build the case as it would be very suspicious for an innocent person not connected to the crime to know those details. Years active. Delphi Timeline: The investigation into the murders of Libby and Abby. Delphi Lawrence died on April 11, 2002 at the age of 70 years. Who knows. Yesterday I saw a related post, perhaps on Websleuths, in which someone said her relative attended the open casket private memorial. Also the video and audio are horrifying. This change could help broaden the search for Abby and Libbys killer. I cant say theres not a threat to the community, Indiana State Police Sgt. The people who are obsessed with this case (perhaps not ALL of you here on DL) remind me of those nuts in the Hotel Cecil Elisa Lam documentary r193, so we should only execute the ones who personally piss you off? The Story Of The Unsolved Delphi Murders And The Chilling Video Evidence Left Behind. But Durnell found holes in the story, he said, and other officers come back having found ropes and blankets similar to those in which Delphi was found wrapped in at his home. That would also account for his careful, hesitate gait, as well as the condition of the bridge, as you correctly pointed out. Last night, I read through a long thread on Reddit and it was frightening, sad, and had information that I hadn't read before. Also had notable body language that could be proven wrong but thats issue! Very specific blade knife interrogation transcripts that were supposed to be hurt, possibly killed to solve crime... 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