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R UDo6n/L0_L#Mgf)6hP Kcx^*-N8*k55d;yO? It turned out to contain 53.2 grains of a powder that, not surprisingly, looked exactly like my supply of twenty-first-century IMR-4895. By extensive, I mean far more than 5,000 rounds have been through it. Just don't try to drive the bullets too fast and the thread above about staying below 180 grain bullets is good . endobj TheRock Chuckerpress gives sufficient leverage to allow rapid and sure full-length resizing. I also decided to limit handloads to two bullets weighing 150 and 168 grains, approximating the bullet weights used during the development of the Garand. h4895 Reduced Rifle Load. Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading 9th edition. A second very decent CMP rifle delivered 2.0-inch groups on demand. These dies come in several varieties, depending on your application, so we went with the full-length set that utilizes your choice of neck sizing bushing to adjust the bullet tension to perfection. COL = 3.240 to 3.330". d #>G%rqsbKVQHphg&8b]5p_ #+ !3a(uPpgFkm5QL 2"/ahiItEz) How do you consider powder temperature sensitivity when developing load data. As for feed reliability, the Garand is superior to many bolt action rifles in this regard. Kevin has been in the shooting business a long time we met more than a decade ago, when he was chief ballistician at Sierra Bullets and these days he is in charge of technical services at Capstone, the U.S. importer of Vihtavuori powders. The all around best They brought out the best in the Garand. <> Pw(&8#P7PqHpZQd-k]F8m295).smy]S:`:\3Xi?= OEX!~$HtAAjV$o rr OII`,z!nS$`N\PyL$>izmHm:IHN^Gz" MrefgM"*'b'Ezj^zEH)EX%>)cmsh9,Gu=d2PLn4j%-ZyFuBFaV I?K}RRc\8h,%fR;XzT@B1{6bV7! ZREB@19V%a.M;D6ljFz+2:#/?7w&w9!U$. There are those who recommend we used only once-fired military brass. The brass used was new Federal, already primed with Federal 210s, purchased in a really good Internet deal a couple years ago. The set also included the MatchMaster seater die that allowed me to drop bullets into a side window, saving my fingers from the typical pinching. See What Happens When You Fire a Riley Defense RAK-47 C L For the First Time. I just made up my 1st Garand loads a few weeks ago using data from the Hornady book. To load the Garand, first lock the bolt to the rear. IMR-4895 available today is made in Canada and, while not exactly the original formula, is pretty close. This wasnt the average, but this was quite exciting. ZKD~r^u wjh5`^Cqs"NZn'Uw:3"}}vI? All the 150-grain loads ended up between about 2,650 and 2,750 fps, and the 168-grain loads ranged from 2,500 to 2,600 fps. The Garand was surprisingly easy to shoot on the bench because of its 10-pound weight, gas operation and the modest ballistics of appropriate ammunition. suitable for M1 Garand rifles that have been rechambered in the 7.62 NATO round. 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You are not likely to produce the best results with foreign surplus loads or even our own generic ammunition. My main concern was reliable feeding, good function, and economy. <> I made a few mesurements inside the camber using Hornady OAL gauge, and I got 2.805, thats where the lands starts. a powder as you want to use and even Varget is questionable. The Speer reloading book has lots of great 30-06 information. The military loads enjoyed a clearly specified burn rate for use in our first self-loading military rifle. Friend Kevin Thomas got wind of the VV-N150 news and sent an e-mail saying we needed to discuss VV-N150 in the Garand. The general rule I like is to use powders faster ); maximum case length: 2.494"; trim to length: One standard piece of .30-06 handloading advice, especially for Garands, is that military cases are heavier than commercial cases, so loads need to be reduced. i would be afraid of over pressure for an M1 Garand using 50.0 grains of IMR4064 with a 150 grain bullet. There were no failures to feed and no M1 thumb. While we used a good supply of Winchester ammunition, we also used reliable handloads. Suggestions Both the 4895s and Accurate 2495 resulted in okay, but not great, accuracy and the 150-grain bullets did not work well with Alliant Reloder 15, though in many other rifles I have seen excellent results with all four powders. endobj These include a de-coppering agent as well as temperature stability. Scales A full-length view of an H&R manufactured U.S. Rifle, Caliber .30 (M1 Garand) used to develop handload data. The bullets feed straight into the chamber, skipping the feed ramp. Is your hand worth the 30$ you will spend buying a book? On top of that, I had on hand 100 once-fired PMC cartridge cases, but they did not prove suitable for multiple loadings. Powder selection is critical. That creates that signature M1 Garand stripper clip sound characterized by a "ping" that alerts you it's time to reload. M1 garand, Bullet jump/ reloading data 08-15-2018, 01:43 PM. While quite a piece of history, we do not set and admire the finish but rather use the rifle often. About halfway through, I hit my second node at around 45.0 grains. A once common practice I avoided was removing the projectile from service ammunition and replacing it with a premium bullet. IMR 4895 -> 47.4 grains (This is below Hodgdon's starting load of 49 grains, but is a typical Garand load charge weight). That being said, I decided to stay away from the 41.00 loading, even though it produced terrific accuracy and mild recoil. This is simply the reality of loading with a self-loading rifle. This is the faster WC852, so it should be OK in the Garand. Powders include Accurate, Vihtavuori, Hodgdon, Winchester, IMR, Alliant Service Rifle Loadings, Downloads For powder, I decided to branch out and give VihtaVuori N150 a try. M1 loads (Courtesy of the NRA) Recommended .30 caliber M1 loadings from the NRA 147 - 155 grain FMJ or HPBT bullets IMR 3031 - 48.0 grains IMR 4895 - 49.0 grains IMR 4064 - 50.0 grains W748 - 48.0 grains AA2460 - 49.0 grains AA2520 - 51.0 grains AA2495 - 50.5 grains H4895 - 49.0 grains BLC-2 - 49.0 grains H335 - 49.0 grains RL-12 - 48.0 grains EC and DiM both suggested 2 great books. These included the Hornady 150-grain JSP, Sierra Palma 155-grain, a match grade bullet, and theNosler 168-grain BTHP. For bullets, we decided to give the new Berger Hybrid Target 168-gr. If hot loads or some newer commercial ammunition is used, it can damage the operating rod. All I can say so far is that it works fine and meters great in the 550. I also took along an M1 Carbine, Mosin Nagant sniper rifle, and a semi-automatic Thompson rifle. For the Garand, the army decided to reproduce the original 150-grain ballistics, partly because it recoiled less and partly because the ammunition was somewhat lighter. However, I describe the stock as a Tung oil experiment gone horribly wrong." PSI/CUP . powders work much better than others. This led to more research, and it turns out the M1 and IMR-4895 coevolved during the years leading up to World War II. While the below listed loading tables clearly show a wide range of powders for He was born in 1921 and later served as a navy corpsman in Japan and Korea. Its just too slow to be comfortably recommended in a Garand with a good conscience. <>>> At the time of this writing, it is the most precise scale that RCBS makes. Substitute 180 grain Spitzer Flat-based or Boat-tail bullets (i.e., Speer, Sierra or Hornady) in the 180 grain "600 yard" Match load info referenced above. Which brass was best in the long run? ]r@#+}BTC5-aEgXtL.8\Xaa1]p2Z/1+j>46~K Suggestions You can mess up a good gun by not loading for them right. The handloads were worked up not only with just accuracy in mind, but also a certain velocity range to avoid overloading the operating rod. A good, tight crimp was used. The goal was to find the sweet spot for powder performance with good accuracy and reliable function. The power accuracy and ease of use are unrivaled. Groups with a rifle such as this were as expected2 to 4 inches average. Take note that this is not the first time that I have experienced this. Due to its adaptation to the Garand, IMR-4895 was designed to burn most efficiently at around 50,000 psi, rather than the 60,000+ psi of many modern rifle powders, including the 20mm cannon powder Hodgdon sold as H-4831. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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Basic Load Data Hornady Manufacturing Company develops and publishes reloading data for the Handbook of Cartridge Reloading. We simply must accept that best. Similarly, the maximum weight of the 150-grain bullet was 152 grains but could be as light as 149 grains. Starting Loads Maximum Loads BULLET WEIGHT POWDER DIA. I set up a target at 50 yards, partly because all the range sessions took place during a particularly windy Montana spring, and. OAL START CHG START FPS START PRESS. H|7:5hh4da}]~= R%V_To_> S0ABKxG.=a.R;Vh"5CPlbwSpU! Chamber Test I would not wish to seat a Match Grade 168-grain bullet over a powder charge intended for 150-grain bullets. Then, the operating rod engages a rotating bolt inside the receiver. This Load Data taken from the Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading 9th edition. This M1 Garand is no stranger to the range. M1 Garands have been used for casual and competitive target shooting ever since they came home on the shoulders of GIs in the 1940s. % Here, he explains their advantages and disadvantagesand how to use them safely. The bullets never moved during recoil, and I often checked the last bullet in the clip to be certain that my crimp was adequate. However, through good maintenance, cleaning and cooling procedures, it still gauges just shy of 3 at the muzzle with a throat erosion slightly below a 5. Along with the rifle, he provided a bag of Winchester 150-grain Power-Point bullets he had purchased off an Internet site for hunting handloads, and some 150-grain MK 4z military ammunition loaded by the U.S. military for British Commonwealth countries that continued to use the .30-06 long after the Lend-Lease program of World War II. Decades of experience with handguns and holsters have given the author some excellent insights into the most popular designs. For example, the load data I used came from the M1 Garand section of the Hornady manual. But accuracy was realized as well. I've used 48.5 grains of IMR4895 behind a 147/150 grain ball bullet for 25 years with no problems. For more than two centuries, Westley Richards has produced some of the worlds finest firearms, each wearing a timeless and classic look with bespoke flourishes. While Vihtavuoris loading data for VV-N150 makes it appear the powder is similar in burn rate to IMR-4895, Kevin said it is not: We just completed some comparative testing with VV-N150 against 4350, and found them to be very, very close in terms of both performance and pressure curves. Although it was a great shooter, the node was really narrow, meaning that just a bit over or under, and I would not have the same accuracy. Other than that, we didn't venture too far outside typical reloading gear.The components that were available to use also depicted decades of product development. Not many bullet makers offer 172-grain .30-caliber bullets anymore, and while some published data includes heavier bullets, many Garand shooters advise against using anything heavier than 172 grains due to possible op-rod damage. Please go to Appearance > Sidebars and drag a widget into User Submit Sidebar. Reloading data is available as low as 99 per cartridge or as a subscription for $19.99. The .30-06 Springfield has been my favorite rifle cartridge for 40 years. Be certain the cartridges are staggered in the clip and that the cartridge case head is pressed fully to the rear. It is a good rifle but not too valuable to fire. H+}fey5j][ue;lyzGZ*cWS %i u _0Qy7ly57~ I|M"ydY#+7 /1i$/8h)}>t}g wN(Xtx =1exoP?e-x+!.kI=)7t{ylo2M=|vx\t|#AH7$w2s^bD+% pLK"l>8= Y5[!9kf"wn\:s3 a0Yq`|Hx?|nFO=NTP4yJWSq\T2JWW=OKBF%qDB`=@*5`~YHt+i$W2J1xKC+`"e>K`@CYmID2eP@gTB zU1T= *KiV`8"=Nu;/KIXa@^61NTXa$8RC@, Headspace Information The Hornady 7th edition does have a Garand section as EC said and it also lists the powders that Big Gun mentioned. After repeatedly testing all the handloads at 50 yards, I shot the most accurate loads with both bullets at 100 yards, confirming the results. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA . Email Hornady and request the Garand specific info. Some brass will last three or four loadings, others a few more. Sadly, when you talk to some folks who reload for this old warhorse, they still opt for those same bulk bullets and surplus powder today! We primed these cases with CCI BR2 benchrest primers, because I have always found these to be the most consistent and reliable in anything that I have ever loaded. Amherst offers specialty two- and five-shot clips that proved invaluable in working up handloads and eliminating the need to load eight rounds on demand. Don't go looking online for load data. If hot loads or some newer commercial ammunition is used, it can damage the operating rod. If you're squeamish or new to reloading, use Winchester Large Rifle) 47.0 grains IMR 4064 Sierra 175 grain MatchKing Overall length 3.340 inches This load, in my M1, duplicates almost perfectly the M72 match load specification with a very low standard deviation. N++RnMNG]:M*hBv;4lZ M1 Garand Clips $3.99 at Brownells.com. .30-06 M1 Garand (Using 168 GR Hornady Bullets) reloading data with 45 loads. This load can be a few tenths either way and still produce exceptional results. Without any opinion offered by the author, these young men and women recognized the Garand as a tremendous battle rifle that deserves our respect. I understood two things after beginning the load process. M1 Garands have been used for casual and competitive target shooting ever since they came home on the shoulders of GIs in the 1940s. However, unlike several other DuPont IMR powders developed during the 1930s, IMR-4895 was not available to handloaders until the late 1940s, when Bruce Hodgdon bought railroad cars full of war surplus IMR-4895 and sold it as H-4895. I cannot comment on problem powders and bullet weights, because I took the route of researching my choices and avoided trouble. IMHO though, that's a pretty powerful charge to use for a 150gr bullet using IMR4064. The original 1906 service load used a 150-grain flatbase spitzer at 2,700 fps the same ammunition Theodore Roosevelt used. M1 GARAND SERVICE RIFLE LOAD DATA Starting Loads Maximum Loads BULLET WEIGHT POWDER DIA. Absolute bench rest accuracy is one thing, but practical combat accuracy with the M1 Garand is unmatched. As such, it is not well worn, and the parts are of high quality. (The z denotes the use of U.S. powder rather than British Cordite.). They can be used as basic load data in most modern military rifles of 7mm or larger, with a standard weight cast bullet for the caliber, such as 140-170 grains in the 7x57, 150-180 grains in the .30 calibers, and 150-190 grains in the 8mm. x}]6n}^Ut@Q$9H=izi I also used the classic original and dependable IMR line of powders. Remember,all 30'06 loads are not suitable for the Garand. I cradled my Garand in a Caldwell Rock BR Competition front shooting rest and supported the rear with a Champion Wedge bag.After confirming my zero, I fired groups with each powder charge. % Mind you, that an overthrow with this dispenser is only 0.02 of a grain-or essentially 2 kernels of powder. Average muzzle velocity was just about 2,750 fps, a little less than 2,800 fps listed by Hatcher but certainly within the normal variation for both rifles and ammunition. The gas-port plug underneath the muzzle can be replaced with an after-market model to shoot commercial .30-06 ammunition. There are several options available for receiving notifications of new posts to include via email, push notifications, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Discord, and more. I've always been told to reduce loads for commercial brass by 1.5 grains when using military brass (supposedly less volume) but weighing the brass shows little difference in weight, so I don't think the capacity is really any different. There were no failures to feed and no M1 thumb multiple loadings deal a years. And eliminating the need to load the Garand and M1-A have issues with proper pressures... 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